Interview

In this inspiring interview, Fr. Mario Lucas Mendes shares his remarkable journey from engineer to dedicated priest and pastor, seamlessly blending academic excellence, pastoral zeal, and a passion for social transformation. With a strong academic foundation—ranging from a Diploma in Electronics Engineering to advanced degrees in History and Social Work from premier institutions—Fr. Mario combines intellectual rigor with pastoral commitment. Conducted by Ms. Janina, this conversation highlights Fr. Mendes’ dedication to empowering communities, advancing the Church’s credibility, and fostering authentic Christian values. His insights challenge us to reflect on our roles in shaping a more inclusive, transparent, and transformative Church and society.

        Interviewed by Ms Janina Gomes

1. Tell us something about your family and your earlier years.

We were a family of five; I am the eldest of the 3 siblings, followed by my brother and my sister. We were the usual devout catholic family. I grew up in Holy Cross Parish, Kurla. Studied in Holy Cross High School, Kurla. I was good at studies in school and college. After my studies in Electronics Engineering, I worked with Larsen & Toubro for 5 years. I was very much involved in the Catholic Charismatic Renewal and the Small Christian Community in our neighborhood.

2. How did you receive your first call to join the priesthood?

Due to my involvement in church activities, over a period of time I began to feel that God wants me to use the entire time available working for the Church. I went for a discernment retreat and even though I discerned the calling, I waited for a year or so to confirm whether this was what God really wanted of me; and also, to make sure I wasn’t running away from any family responsibilities.

3. Tell us something about your challenging academic journey

I enjoyed the seminary formation very much, both the academics as well as the other pastoral and cultural activities. I realized that it would be useful to have knowledge of Sociology and Psychology in my priestly ministry. So, during three consecutive seminary vacations I appeared for my exams to complete my Bachelor’s Degree in Arts (BA) through the Institute of Distance Education (presently known as Centre for Distance and Online Education), University of Mumbai. Later as a young priest I was encouraged by a senior priest to complete my Master’s Degree in Arts (MA) in History from the same institution. During my tenure as a full-time seminary professor, I used the week-ends to complete my Post-graduate Diploma in Human Rights, from the University of Mumbai. Later I chose to opt for studies in social work, and completed my Master’s degree from Tata Institute of Social Sciences (TISS).

4. You were ordained in 2003. What did you do initially after your ordination?

After my ordination, I was appointed to Our Lady of Lourdes Church, Orlem, Malad West. I animated the Small Christian Communities, Bible Cell, Charismatic Prayer group, youth group, helped with Sunday School and Confirmation classes, and many other activities. I found my pastoral ministry very fulfilling.

5. You undertake many pastoral duties by conducting training programs for animators of SSC’s, sessions and recollections for youth, catechists, confirmation classes and Bible studies for lay people and your retreats for the Catholic Charismatic Renewal. How do you manage so many diverse activities?

Passion for my God-given work, and being well-organized and well-planned to make best use of the time available. It is indeed very motivating to see the response of the participants and the impact created, which spurs me on with ever-renewed zeal.

6. You are associated with the Dimensions Global Christian Chamber of Commerce. What are the main objectives of this Organization?

It is a movement of Christian Entrepreneurs to Network, Collaborate and Drive Growth. They have a variety of activities for the members, and also organize outreach programs in various parishes. I was blessed to be invited for their programs by a good friend and mentor, Mr Vincent D’silva. I have tremendously benefited from their Professional Training Programs and Networking Meetings.

7. As you said you were a promoter of SCC’S from 2009-2012. What work did you do as animator?

This role gave me a diocesan perspective to the Small Christian Community work which I earlier knew at grassroot level and parish level. I travelled to almost all parishes for meetings and trainings, coordinated deanery-level evaluation and planning meetings, and guided the SCC animators across the archdiocese to enhance their functioning, and facilitated a healthy exchange of ideas and best practices.

8. You were Director of the Centre for Social Action from 2012-2021 Tell us something about your main thrusts in this major ministry. What was your main focus?

My aim was to build the Centre for Social Action as a credible social work institution of the Church, that would be respected in the in the secular world of professional social work. I say with a lot of joy that I succeeded to a very great extent, in spite of various internal and external challenges. I was able to put systems in place for compliance with the best professional practices, connect with non-church agencies for partnership on Corporate Social Responsibility Funding and implement projects for national and international organizations like UNICEF, Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers (IEEE, USA), STCI Finance Ltd (Formerly known as Securities Trading Corporation of India), and many others. A program especially dear to my heart was the “Children’s Parliament” (Bal Sansad) wherein the children from vulnerable backgrounds were organized to take responsibility for their social development, understand their child-rights, and address their issues of concern using democratic processes; thus, building them to be enlightened and participatory citizens.

9. You have been lecturing in St. Pius X Seminary on subjects like the Sociology of Religion, Social Doctrine of the Church, Human Rights, all very sensitive topics. What values did you impart to your students?

Integrity is very important; we must sincerely strive to become what we claim to be. What we learn academically must sink into our hearts and minds; it must become the very essence of our being – the values of Truth and Justice, Equality and Fraternity, Liberty and Inclusiveness. It is important to confront our own social, cultural & religious prejudices, and deal with our blind spots with openness and willingness to update our own views.

10. You have taught Scripture in the seminary and you are presently Dean of the Bandra Deanery and  the Parish Priest of St, Anne’s Parish in Bandra. Quite Obviously you are a very versatile priest. Tell us something about what you learned and gained by occupying such important posts that you have handled?

I see an urgent need to rebuild the credibility of the Church in the world. In today’s world it is not enough to be honest; one must be able to show “on paper” that we are honest by our documentation, compliances, system and policies. I always emphasize the need for mechanisms for Accountability and Transparency in our functioning; going the extra mile to keep all compliances in such order that we should be considered the light of the world and salt of the earth in these matters too. We need genuine processes for grievance-redressal, forums for listening and responding appropriately, dispensing Justice within a reasonable time frame. We need to change from being politicians of the institutional church to instruments of transformation of hearts and minds, communities and societies, cultures and nations.

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1. Tell us something about your early years.

I was born in the city of Lucknow, belonged to the Cathedral parish there, studied in Loreto till Degree College, then did B.Ed. in the Lucknow University (1975), after which, in 1976, I was appointed as Teacher in St. Agnes’ Loreto High School. My family had a simple faith, we were all well educated, and we learned to work hard in our early years. I became fluent in English and Hindi, and took active part in our diocese’s Catholic Youth Association in social work and dramatics.

2. What attracted you to join the Order of Consecrated Virgins (OCV) and just how did you receive the call?

I started discerning my vocation from 1978. I was happy and popular with my students as their Teacher, yet after a deep God-experience during a Catholic Charismatic Retreat in 1979, I felt that there was something more I was called to. I prayed much and eventually said “yes” at once to an invitation given to me by my Parish Priest to do a one-year Bible Course in Bombay. I left my home and job and friends and beloved homeland to go to an unknown far away big city, which I had only seen in the movies, to study the Bible with other lay people from other cities of India. We were the first group of the Catholic Bible Institute in Mumbai, started by Fr. Fio Mascarenhas SJ, in 1979.

After that, my life’s journey with Jesus took me to the USA for M.A. (Th) studies, then back to Bombay in 1982 to serve in the Bible Institute, from where I was asked to work in the Regional Pastoral Centre of North India in Patna, because of my proficiency in Hindi. From there in 1984, my bishop sent me to Rome and I had to study Theology right from the start, including Philosophy and Latin at the same time! From the Baccalaureate in Theology to the Licentiate, and then to the Doctorate in Sacred Theology, I studied in the Pontifical University of St. Thomas Aquinas (also in Regina Mundi for Philosophy).

In 1985, during my studies in Canon Law, I received a strong inspiration about my vocation to the “Order of Consecrated Virgins living in the world” (Ordo Virginum). The words of canon 604 immediately confirmed for me that this Order was for me! I enquired about it from my Professor, who told me to write to my bishop, because only the bishop can confirm the vocation and consecrate the candidate. My bishop told me to complete my doctorate first and by then he would do his own Research about this vocation, because not much was known about it in the Church in India. In 1991 I completed my Doctoral Dissertation on Mary, a Gift for India, defended my thesis, etc. and returned to Patna, and in 1992 Archbishop Benedict J.Osta, SJ consecrated me in the Khurji parish church, in the presence of my mother and all the parishioners, using (for the first time in India!) the special Rite for Consecrated Virgins.

3. You have a doctorate in Sacred Theology and must be among the few women who have a doctorate in Scriptures.

My Doctorate is in Sacred Theology, but all my work has been in the field of Sacred Scripture, which is the foundation for all theology. When I completed my doctorate in 1991, I heard that I was the first lay woman to have earned a doctorate in Sacred Theology from a Pontifical University in Rome. I believe that it was all planned and executed by our loving God, who chose me for this privilege, all I did was to say “yes” and work hard single-mindedly while taking several risks.

4. You have authored several bestselling books such as “Seeking Jesus in the OT”; Prayer for the Laity; Handbook for CCR Core Teams; and “Life of Jesus as Contemplated by Mary.” Do you feel your being a woman helped contribute a fresh perspective on the role of Mary in Salvation History?

Yes, indeed! The Lord God gave me the insights and experience, and Mary and Joseph guided me through. My contribution to Mary’s role is to see her as an exceptional human being whose whole life and attention was attuned to the movements of the Holy Spirit. She is a model Woman and not a goddess.

5. You were Editor of Bible Aglow for 20 years, also Director of the Catholic Bible Institute for 22 years, have written articles in Foreign and Indian journals, and served for 6 years on the Executive Committee of the worldwide Catholic Biblical Federation. When you look back what do you think helped you to do justice to so many associations in the Church?

My basic nourishment came from my love and relationship to the Word of God and the vast experience of the theological and biblical world as I studied and travelled around the world, learning through all the dialogue and participation in international conferences. But my one centering point is FAITH in Jesus who never forsakes me, and in the Catholic Church of which I am a useful member.

6. You were nominated by Pope Benedict XVI to attend the 2005 Synod of Bishops in Rome as an auditor. You were also a member of the Indian Theological Association and taught Scripture in the Pius X Seminary in Mumbai and in other institutions across the country. Did you experience gender discrimination and Patriarchy, when you worked in these positions?

I felt accepted and appreciated in my service to the People of God, perhaps because of my qualifications and talents. However, I am well aware of the subtle atmosphere of patriarchal and clerical monopolies in the Church!

7. The CBCI invited you to address them at their PA in Bangalore. Did you find the Bishops ready to listen to you as a Professional woman?

I felt deeply honored to address the Plenary Assembly of the CBCI! It was a gift from the Lord to me, because I felt deeply unworthy of being called to serve in that manner. And the bishops’ happy response built up my courage and faith.

8. You have rendered tremendous service to the Church. What do you think were your main contributions, especially to the church in India?

First, my Faith Formation seminars and retreats to far away villages of the poorest of the poor in the Patna Diocese for the Dalits; and in Ranchi and Dibrugarh dioceses for the Adivasis, mostly tea-garden workers, illiterate and very poor. Secondly, being the first member of Ordo Virginum in India, I helped Fr. Fio Mascarenhas, SJ from 1994 to begin the formation of interested candidates who felt called to this vocation. Cardinal Pimenta (and successors) had appointed him as our Chaplain. Now we have about 20 members in various parts of India consecrated by their respective bishops to serve the Church and the world. Still, much needs to be done and understood about this vocation and our mission. Praise Jesus!

Dr. Renu Rita Silvano, OCV

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In this interview, Fr. Fio Mascarenhas, a Jesuit priest and biblical scholar, shares insights from his life and ministry. The eldest of five brothers in a devout Goan family, he was drawn to the Jesuits from an early age. Despite nearing his Sacerdotal Golden Jubilee, Fr. Fio continues to preach, write, and lead retreats worldwide, inspiring countless Catholics to deepen their faith. His work in biblical spirituality and the Charismatic Renewal has had a lasting impact, and his latest books offer fresh perspectives on the life of Jesus and the Gospel.

1. Tell us something about your early life and family.

Of 5 sons in my family, I am the eldest. My brother is also a Jesuit, Fr Frazer, while Faust, Fidelis and Franz are happily married. We all have the same initials, as my mother was Florie and my father Francis. We lived near St Xavier’s High School (and College) in Bombay, and are therefore Jesuit products. My mother was a school teacher, and my father a commercial artist. We were a very happy and pious Catholic Goan family.

2. What attracted you to join the Jesuits?

In school and (quasi) parish, we had wonderful Jesuit friends and models, so when I discerned a vocation to religious life, I was convincingly drawn to the Jesuit Order.

As you approach your Sacerdotal Golden Jubilee on 5 April 2025, after celebrating your Diamond Jubilee as a Jesuit, you continue your ministry with great zeal and passion. Please comment on your current ministry?

From the day I had a personal life-changing faith-experience of “God’s love poured into my heart” (also known as “baptism in the Spirit”) on 11 Feb 1973 (after a 3-year long crisis of faith), I have been blessed by God with an overwhelming and fulfilling desire to teach God’s Word to more and more people. So though formally retired, I continue to accept invitations to preach retreats to clergy, religious and laity, and to write books on biblical spirituality.

3. Pope Benedict XVI invited you to participate as an expert in the 2008 Synod of Bishops in Rome and you also participated in the Synod of Bishops on the Eucharist in 2005. You have been awarded the Doctor of Ministry degree in Biblical Spirituality by the Catholic Theological Union in Chicago. Do you feel that you owe it to the Jesuits that you have been able to contribute so much to the life of the Church?

Invited by Pope Benedict XVI as an expert for the 2008 Synod and a participant in the 2005 Synod on the Eucharist, with a Doctor of Ministry in Biblical Spirituality from the Catholic Theological Union, do you feel being a Jesuit has enabled your deep contributions to the Church?

Of course! But for the understanding and encouragement of my Superiors (starting with local Provincials and all the way up to the Servant of God Fr Arrupe who allowed me to go to Rome to live in the Gregorian University Community and to work in a Vatican office from 1981-88), I could not have dreamt of the “great things God would do for me.”

4. You are a former Director and Chairman of the International Council for Catholic Charismatic Renewal, resident in Rome. How did you become a “charismatic” and tell us about your experience in Rome.

During  a crisis of faith when, though blessed with intelligence and a good memory, I failed an ordinary final exam (BSc-chemistry) because my mind unaccountably went blank as I walked (well-prepared) into the examination hall, and this happened three (!) times in consecutive years from 1968-72, and then gave up on prayer etc, no longer able to believe in God’s love for me, and questioning why “He” had apparently abandoned me,  I was blessed with what we Jesuits call “my Cannonball experience” which is a totally gratuitous experience of God saying to me on 11 Feb 1973, “Fio, you are my beloved son, in whom I am well pleased!” Though I couldn’t understand how, instead of scolding me, my Father God was actually smiling at me, and appreciating me, a great fountain of joy sprang up from my heart and I shouted aloud, “Jesus, you are alive!” That was the beginning of my “charismatic” vocation and ministry, and that experience of being loved by God has never left me till today, though other trials and suffering have come my way.

In Rome I have had the privilege of meeting 4 Popes (St Pope Paul VI in 1975, St John Paul II very many times 1981-2004, Benedict XVI at the Synods, and Francis seven times). I have also met thousands of charismatic disciples of Jesus at the Leaders Conferences I organized and in my travels to National Charismatic Conferences in 84 countries.

5. You have visited 84 countries to preach retreats or conduct Bible seminars and Leaders Conferences. So, you have influenced a large number of Catholics. How do you think your contributions have helped Catholics grow in their faith?

After visiting 84 countries to preach retreats and lead Bible seminars and conferences, how do you feel your work has helped Catholics deepen their faith?

After I retired from leadership of the Indian Charismatic Renewal in 2002, and I then earned a doctorate in Chicago in 2004, I have devoted my energies entirely to the Biblical Pastoral ministry, with my base being the Catholic Bible Institute, Mumbai (of which I am Founder & Chairman). From the feedback I have received and continue to receive from laity, religious and bishops, I feel consoled that my ministry has been very fruitful. This is because, though our Church gives great importance to God’s written Word in the Bible, in practice the whole emphasis has been only on our Eucharistic and Marian devotions. Most Catholics were, or still are, unfamiliar with the Scriptures and with the Catholic way of interpreting biblical texts. So, my work, together with Dr Renu Silvano OCV, and Deacon Inacin, and the late Fr Rufus Pereira, has happily been blessed by God. Many people have experienced the truth of Jesus’ words, “My words are spirit and life” (Jn 6:63), and the truth of the Second Vatican Council’s decree DEI VERBUM: “Such is the force and power of the Word of God that it can serve God’s People as strength for their faith, food for the soul, and a pure and lasting fount of spiritual life…” (n.21).

6. You have authored 26 books, 9 in collaboration with Dr. Renu Rita Silvano. They have been published in several foreign languages and regional languages of India. Which of your books do you consider among the most significant?

Of your 26 books, including 9 co-authored with Dr Renu Rita Silvano and published in various foreign and Indian languages, which do you consider most significant?

They are God’s Best Ideas, Co-heirs With Christ, The Full Gospel, The Holy Spirit, God’s Word Nourishes and Broadening The Horizons Of Our Minds.

7. You published three books in 2023. How did you manage to do that?

Because of the COVID pandemic, all travel for retreats, etc., was out of the question from 2020-22, also our Bible Institute was closed, so I had plenty of time!

8. Tell us something about your latest books and by whom they are distributed.

The latest, co-authored with Dr Renu Silvano, is Life Of Jesus As Contemplated By Mary, published and available with the Daughters of St Paul, Mumbai. It is a beautiful, novel, and fully biblical re-construction of the Life of Christ, narrated by his Mother. Focusing on the Joyful, Luminous, Sorrowful, and Glorious Mysteries of the Rosary, it uses the Ignatian prayer method called Application of the Senses to contemplate the various events of the life of Christ.

The second latest is The Full Gospel – A Pauline Perspective, published by the Fathers of St Paul, Mumbai. As Archbp. Anil Couto of Delhi wrote in his review, “This precious book is a spiritual treasure which is not to be read once and kept aside but to be returned to again and again for our spiritual nourishment, especially in moments when strong negative currents from within and without tend to take us away from the path of the Gospel.”

Interviewed by Ms Janina Gomes

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1. Tell us something about your earlier days and your family

I come from a large family of 9 children!   Our upbringing was very religious – daily mass, rosary etc.  My two elder sisters are religious, the eldest was a Carmelite at Kolkatta.  My uncle was a Jesuit priest, Fr. Hilary Miranda, cousin a Jesuit, Fr. Noel Sheth another cousin a diocesan priest, my own godmother a nun, a cousin a religious…!!  So, you see, I was surrounded by religious!!  My father was a businessman, but he was a gentle businessman deeply rooted in the faith.  These values our parents instilled in us – the value of honesty, integrity, caring and sharing.  Even though we are so many of us, we are very united and even now that we’re spread out all over, we meet at least once a month on WhatsApp!!

2. How did you experience your first call to be a Jesuit?

For sure, my vocation was nurtured and molded in and through my family.  I owe it to them.  You see, I grew up with a spiritual upbringing.  We were a eucharistic and prayer-centred family.  Vacation time was devoted to reading lives of saints.  So naturally I was inspired and right from my school days I felt the Lord calling me, but I brushed it aside thinking it’s a passing phase.  However, it kept lingering at the back of my mind.  While studying management, the call came again strongly.  I prayed a lot over it, consulted my spiritual director. After a great deal of discernment, I made the decision to say yes to the Lord.  I have not looked back since then.

3. You studied law but worked on non-formal education for the marginalized for many years. How do you explain the shift?

During my regency I was in Ambatha, a very remote village, 100 kms from Nashik.  I witnessed first- hand, the difficulties people faced in obtaining their rights.  It was there that I felt the urge to study law so that I could take up issues concerning the poor and the marginalized.  At the same time, I was also appalled by the number of children out of school and roaming the jungles.  I made a quick resolution that as a Jesuit I would devote my energies to educate the poorest of the poor.

4. You are founder director of an NGO, Reach Education Action Programme (REAP). What was your motivation in starting it?

As I said, the number of children out of school made a deep impact on me. I decided to do something about it.  The idea of REAP slowly began to take shape.  At first, I called it ‘Rural Education Assistance Programme’ with the idea of assisting tribal children in their education.  I was still in theology and continued this till ordination.  After ordination I was appointed treasurer of the province.  I realized now that I would be in the city for sometime and decided to expand the education network to cover children in the streets and slums.  To my amazement, the idea began to be accepted.  After my term as treasurer, I launched full time into non-formal education work.  Thus, REAP was born of a need to combat illiteracy and ensure every child would be in school and not working.

5. Describe how you went about growing and nurturing it.

With the growing outreach in Mumbai slums, I changed the nomenclature to ‘Reach Education Action Programme’ which is like a mission statement – reaching education to bring about action for social change.  REAP was meant to be a literacy movement (not a project) reaching to the poorest in their situations where formal education couldn’t reach.  Our motto was, where the poor are, there we must be.  The poor are everywhere and we got dragged to cover the length and breadth of Mumbai city and surrounding rural areas up to Khardi.  We soon began to be called ‘a footpath university’ and I was the vice-chancellor!!

6. Describe the successes of the programme and its present reach.

The major reason for REAP’s success was its breadth of vision, deep thrust, commitment and passion.  It was a movement for change.  We left no stone unturned to cover every marginalized child, whether rag-picker or tribal child.  Soon we were covering about 10,000 children through a network of about 450 non formal literacy centres.  With the growth of literacy centres, we realized we needed teachers.  We decided to start our own teacher training centres where we trained our grassroot teachers through a six-month training programme.  Within two years we opened 3 teacher training centres to cater to the large number of trainees.  It was a tremendous joy to see simple girls from the village transformed into confident teachers.  We did not give them readymade teaching aids; they made their own out of waste materials thus boosting their creativity.  Our teachers were imbued not only with skills to ‘teach’ but also with the passion to mould lives. This is the real reason for the success of our non-formal literacy programme.

7. In 2005, REAP was awarded a 1-million-dollar award from the Opus Foundation, USA. in recognition of the work your NGO did over the years. How did this international award give a boost to your organization?

The one-million-dollar Opus Award came as a shot in the arm.  It was the most beautiful day of my life, an emotional one too.  Initially many pooh-poohed my work and thought it would collapse.  I must confess, many times I too struggled to keep it afloat.  In a formal school, children will come to school irrespective of the weather.  In a non-formal, the weather, demolitions, poverty affect the functioning of the school.  In the daily struggle for survival, schooling is the last thing on the parent’s mind.  Where the next meal will come from is more important than going to school.  So, the Opus award was a tremendous recognition of the struggle, hard work, perseverance and commitment of our work.  This had a great impact on our work.  It got wider recognition and mileage.  Funding was never an issue.

8. You were also conferred an Honorary Doctorate from Marquette University, USA for your immense contribution in reaching education to the most marginalized and neglected children. Would you share some thoughts on what this meant to you and your efforts in the field.

The honorary doctorate was like a double whammy!!  Yes, I must admit, it was like a personal recognition of my hard work.  I will never forget that day.  I never in my wildest dreams imagined that this kind of NFE work would be so recognized and awarded.  It gave me an added boost to carry on this work with greater thrust.  More than me, for my staff who shared my vision and passion and who saw both the award and the doctorate as a stamp of approval of what we set out to do, to educate every marginalized child.  They were very proud of it and it gave them also a tremendous sense of mission and purpose.  They proudly addressed me as ‘Dr. Miranda’ in formal programmes!!

9. Tell us something about the creative and innovative methods you used for your programme and who benefited from it.

The beneficiaries were always the marginalized out-of-school children on the street, in slums and rural areas.  We never compromised on this group.  We had their faces before us while drawing up our programmes.  We tried to be always innovative and creative.  In fact in non-formal education one has to be creative or else the children would drop out of school.  In the initial years, the focus was NFE (non-formal education) and leap-frogging them to formal schools through the NIOS (Open School system).  After the advent of the RTE Act, which mandated every child should be in school, we changed our strategies to ensure the children stayed in school through quality education support.  The NFE classes became Supportive classes to ensure that the children learn well and do not drop out.  The teacher training programmes now focused on formal syllabus.  To prevent tribal girls from dropping out of school and next thing resulting in early marriages, we decided to start a boarding for them.  This was an instant hit as it opened new vistas for them to dream of life beyond early marriages.  Many of these girls went on to become nurses and teachers.  Dreams began to become a reality.  It is a well-known adage, ‘you educate a woman; you educate a family’.  To ensure this, we began a series of adult literacy programmes for women along with self-help groups (SHG’s), to empower women to become decision makers and change agents in their family and community.

10. Is there anything you would like to add?

Non formal education caters to the poorest of the poor and must be supported as much as the formal schools. We all must make an option for the poor and I appeal to all those involved in non-formal work, do not give up, think big, do big.

 Interviewed by Ms Janina Gomes

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In this issue of Magnet, we are privileged to present an inspiring conversation with Fr. Gilbert De Lima, a distinguished theologian and the Rector of St. Pius X College, Mumbai. Raised in a devout Catholic family in Dadar, Mumbai, Fr. Gilbert’s journey from his early involvement in the Church to his theological studies in Rome reflects a life deeply rooted in faith and service. His contributions to priestly formation, both as a teacher and leader, and his engagement with Small Christian Communities highlight his enduring commitment to the mission of the Church. We explore his experiences, achievements, and vision for the future, offering readers a glimpse into the life of a dedicated servant-leader.

1. Tell us something about your early years and your family

My parents were coincidentally Francis and Claire, who hailed originally from the same village, Carona, Goa. We were four children, three sons and the youngest was a girl, Ruth. A Priest from our Parish of St Paul, Dadar would humorously say: “Thank God for Ruth or the three of you would be ruth-less!” I think he was right!! I was the eldest child in the family. My dad retired as the chief cashier of Voltas Ltd after having served them for 36 years in the year I was ordained. My mum was a qualified teacher and taught occasionally. We were brought up in a very catholic atmosphere at home and as children were enrolled in the Altar Server’s society of the Parish. While I was studying for the B.Com at Podar College, Matunga, I was also an active member of the Legion of Mary unit in our Parish. My brother, immediately after me, also was ordained a Priest for the archdiocese of Bombay.

2. How did you first experience the call to become a priest?

I owe my call to the priesthood to my Parents who brought us up in a religious atmosphere at home. We participated in the Eucharist daily and often prayed the Rosary as a family. We were also brought up to respect Priests and Religious. Also, as a Legionary, I would visit the sick in the hospitals and the poor and marginalized on weekends regularly. While I did fairly well in College and felt drawn to a career as a Chartered Accountant, or even felt a desire to migrate to Australia, since my God-father invited me to pursue life `Down Under’, I sensed personally the call from the Lord who became `real to me’ and, like Matthew, the tax collector, called me to follow him. My mum’s older brother,  the late Bp Ferdinand Fonseca, was also an exemplary priest and at that time the Rector of St Pius College, the Archdiocesan Seminary. His example inspired and encouraged me as well to respond to the Lord’s call.

3. You obtained a Doctorate in Theology from the Pontifical Urban University in Rome with a Summa cum Laude. Tell us how this distinction helped you in your ministry of teaching students in St. Pius, the Archdiocesan seminary in Mumbai.

I felt blessed to be given the opportunity to do my studies in the Pontifical Urban University, Rome. I pursued my licentiate and then the doctorate in Systematic Theology. My doctoral thesis was entitled: `The Local Church and Basic Christian Communities in the Service of the Kingdom of God’. Consequently, with the Lucan perspective I sought to demonstrate first, how the Early Church strove to realize the Kingdom of God. In the second part, I presented this reality taking shape with the perspective of the FABC documents, since right from the first Plenary Assembly of 1974, these documents have consistently spoken of a building up the local Church as realizing the Kingdom of God through a three-fold dialogue, with the three significant features of the Asian context, viz. cultures, religions and the poor. In the third part, I presented the Basic Christian Community, which is a microcosm of the local Church, as the concrete instrument that can make this a reality! My thesis helped me teach some of the courses in the seminary. I was also involved in facilitating the formation of BCCs (SCCs) in different parishes in Mumbai. I have also been a Guide and an external Reader at some doctoral defenses at the Jnana Deepa, Pune on the topic of Small Christian Communities. I have had the opportunity to organize a workshop during the past three years on the `Theology and Practice of SCCs’ for the Deacons studying at the Jnana Deepa, Pune too.

4. You were Dean of Studies at St. Pius from 2006-2011. You updated the courses at the seminary as Dean. Explain what that involved.

It was a major challenge to rework the entire academic programme. We revised the entire academic programme since we were now affiliated to the St Peter’s Pontifical Institute, Bangalore and so had to include courses in Greek and Latin as also courses in keeping with the Ratio Studiorum of the Universal Church documents. This implied getting on board as many as 50 visiting professors from all over the country, as well as working out a specific syllabus for students who joined us midstream so that they could be also accommodated into our prorgramme of formation. The format for organizing the Comprehensive Exams also changed and was more `comprehensive’ in its assessment of the student.

You were also Chairperson of the Conference of Diocesan Priests of the Archdiocese of Mumbai from 2009-2011. Did you have a lot of interaction with Diocesan Priests in Mumbai in that capacity and how did that help?

I was surprised when I was elected by the Diocesan Priests to be the Chairperson of the Conference of Diocesan Priests of the Archdiocese of Mumbai from 2009-2011. We had an extremely good Committee that worked towards organizing `Live-ins’ for the priests as per their year of Ordination with a very good resource person Keith D’Souza who was a Management Consultant and Senior Professor of Management Studies at Bhavan’s College, Mumbai. These live-ins served as a means for ongoing formation in the field of the life and ministry of the priest, and provided an opportunity for greater bonding as well as helped bridge the gap between the senior and the junior clergy.

5. You were Vice-President of the International Diaconate Centre, Rottenburg, Stuttgart, Germany for some time. How did that exposure strengthen your ministry?

This was yet another grace. I was to accompany Cardinal Oswald Gracias to Vienna for a Study Conference of the International Diaconate Centre. Since the Cardinal fell ill and could not participate almost at the last minute, I was invited by the Organizers to read his Paper. At the end of the Conference, the newly elected Board invited me to be a part of the Board of Delegates. Four years down the line, I was invited to stand for election to the Executive Board and to my surprise I was elected Vice-President. This experience afforded me the opportunity to interact with experts from different nationalities at close quarters and benefit from these encounters. It was Cardinal Ivan Dias, the then archbishop of Bombay who introduced the Permanent Diaconate into the archdiocese and the Church in India. He gave me the charge of preparing a three and a half year formation programme for Candidates to the Permanent Diaconate for the archdiocese and ordained the first two deacons for the archdiocese in 2006. He later appointed me as the Director of the Commission for the Permanent Diaconate. I have been working closely with those in formation as well as Permanent Deacons since the past 20 years and it has been a privilege and a learning experience for me as I see the deacons working in different ways, both in their ministry in the liturgy, but especially in their ministry to the underprivileged in different ways and settings, inviting the Church to rediscover her call to Diakonia (service)

6. You are now appointed Secretary of the Conference of Catholic Bishops of India (CCBI) Commission for Theology and Doctrine. What will be your role in the Commission?

The CCBI completes its Golden Jubilee in 2033. As part of the effort to make the Jubilee celebration meaningful, all the 16 Commissions, 6 Departments and 4 Apostolates have gone, during the past year, through a process of `Strategic Planning’. This effort has been oriented to enable each of them to spell out its Goal, Objectives and Key Performance Indicators, both long term and short term.

7. You have authored books and articles and presented papers at national and international seminars. Name and describe what you consider your most significant contributions.

My most significant theological contribution would be my doctoral thesis which was the fruit of three years of study and research. I also reworked the third part of the thesis and entitled it: `Evangelization in India through Small Christian Communities’ and got it published by St Paul’s, Bandra. This book was caught by the radar of the RSS. I have also written a number of researched articles on the theology of Raimundo Pannikar. I was blessed to be on the Editorial Board selected by the CCBI to write a text-book for Seminaries in India entitled: `May they all be one: Ecumenism in Catholic perspective’.

8. What is the legacy you will leave behind in your contributions to teaching at the seminary and theological works?

I have had the good fortune to have taught a number of courses in the field of Systematic and Fundamental Theology over the past 39 years! Some of them have been: Christology, Pneumatology, Faith and Revelation, the Theology of the Local Church, the Theology of Grace, and Ecumenism, the Theology and Practice of Interreligious Dialogue. I have always prepared printed notes on the subjects taught. Over the years I have made the effort to make the classes more interactive.

9. Is there anything else you would like to add?

I have recently been appointed by Cardinal Oswald Gracias as the Rector of St Pius X College. I assumed office on June 1, 2024. I sense the challenge and the opportunity to lead this noble Institution and the persons who are part of it to live up to our motto, viz `to be Ambassadors of Christ’ in the brave new world and India we are living in!

Ms Janina Gomes

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Fr. Richard D’Souza SJ is a Jesuit priest and scientist at the Vatican Observatory, where he blends his deep faith with his passion for astronomy. From an early age, Richard was fascinated by the universe, a pursuit he continued alongside his vocation to the priesthood, despite personal losses. While he was in his priestly formation period, his only brother died from cerebral malaria. His parents would have liked him to come back from the seminary but allowed him to continue his journey. The loss of his brother made him only stronger in his faith and his desire to follow the Lord. After becoming a priest in Goa in 2011, he earned a doctorate in astronomy from the Max Planck Institute in Munich, Germany, and completed his post-doctoral research at the University of Michigan, USA. Now one of twelve scientists at the Vatican Observatory, Fr. Richard is known for his humility and dedication, viewing the universe as a profound testament to God’s creation. In this interview, Sr. Sonia engages with Fr. Richard to explore his unique journey and insights.

Interviewed by Sr Soniya K Chacko DC 

Could you please introduce yourself and share your vocation story, including your family background and journey with the Society of Jesus?

I am Fr. Richard D’Souza SJ from Goa, India, and I belong to the Goa Province of the Society of Jesus. Currently, I serve as a staff astronomer at the Vatican Observatory in Castel Gandolfo, Rome, and from July of this year, I also hold the position of superior of the Jesuit community at the Observatory. My journey with the Jesuits began during my time at St. Britto High School in Mapusa, Goa, where I was introduced to their way of life and felt a deep attraction to it. After completing higher secondary school, I entered the Jesuit novitiate in Belgaum, Karnataka, in 1996. I was ordained a priest in December 2011, marking over a decade of my priesthood. Regarding my family, I come from a simple background. My parents, who are currently living in Goa, worked in Kuwait but returned as refugees after the Gulf War when I was 12. I had a brother who passed away shortly after I joined the novitiate. Despite these challenges, my parents supported my vocation, and I cherish the profound influence of my Jesuit education and upbringing.

As a child, were you fascinated by the stars and the moon? When did your interest in astronomy begin, and how do you feel about your dual role as a scientist and priest?

From a young age, I was always drawn to the sciences and engineering. Although I wasn’t initially focused specifically on astronomy, my interest deepened when I joined the Jesuits. I read extensively about their work in astronomy and the sciences, and my Jesuit superiors encouraged me to specialize in astronomy during my formation. This support greatly fuelled my passion for the field.

As a scientist-priest, I find a deep sense of fulfillment in my work. While my research is my primary focus, I also help at a local Italian parish on Sundays and celebrate the Holy Mass. I’ve always enjoyed preaching and leading Mass, and after my ordination, I began offering courses on theology and scripture for the laity. Today, I see my vocation as reaching out to the scientific community, a group that the Church sometimes finds challenging to engage with. Balancing these roles allows me to connect faith and science in meaningful ways.

When did you complete your studies as a priest and as a scientist, and why did you choose to study astrophysics in Germany despite having renowned research centres in India? How did the Max Planck Institute influence your career, and what is your current research focus?

I completed most of my priestly studies in Pune, India, finishing them in 2011. For my scientific studies, I started with a master’s degree in Physics at the University of Heidelberg, Germany, before completing my priestly formation. Afterward, I pursued a PhD in astronomy at the Max Planck Institute for Astrophysics in Munich.

Choosing Germany for my astrophysics studies was partly to gain experience at an esteemed foreign institution. At the time, Indian institutions were more focused on theoretical work and radio astronomy, with less emphasis on optical astronomy. The Max Planck Society, with its premier institutes in astronomy and cosmology, provided significant exposure to international research and advanced facilities. My research at these institutes, particularly on the formation and evolution of galaxies, has been deeply enriching. I focus on understanding the history of galaxies like our Milky Way, which has been a fulfilling aspect of my scientific career.

How do you balance your call to priesthood and science, and do they complement each other? How did you come to work at the Vatican Observatory, and what does your daily routine involve? How do you feel about being part of the tradition of priest-scientists?

For me, priesthood and science are deeply intertwined. My Jesuit superiors specifically encouraged me to pursue astronomy and work at the Vatican Observatory, integrating my scientific work with my religious mission. Working at the Observatory allows me to contribute to the Church’s mission of preaching the Gospel and engaging with the scientific community. As a Catholic, I believe that exploring the universe only deepens my appreciation for God’s creation, bringing me closer to the Creator.

I was approached by the Vatican Observatory during my master’s studies, which led to my training and subsequent role here. I’ve been at the Observatory in Rome for the past three years. My daily routine involves conducting astronomical research, writing papers, and presenting findings to the scientific community. I also engage in public talks to demonstrate how science and religion can harmoniously coexist. Being part of the tradition of priest-scientists is a source of pride for me. I hope to contribute meaningfully to this esteemed group and serve both the Church and the broader scientific community with dedication and integrity.

How do you relate human existence to the vast realities of the universe through your research, and how does your work at the Vatican Observatory reflect this understanding? Are there other priest-scientists working with you, and how does your faith influence your scientific work? Also, do you have any interest in space exploration? Human existence raises fundamental questions that astronomy seeks to answer: Where do we come from? Where are we going? And are we alone in the universe?

My research focuses on the origin of the universe, galaxies, stars, and planets, which ties into these existential inquiries. Understanding the future of the universe involves studying dark energy and the accelerated expansion of the cosmos, while the search for extraterrestrial life probes whether we are alone.

At the Vatican Observatory, I am part of a community of about 13 priests and brothers who work as astronomers. Our work is deeply rooted in faith, and as the Psalmist sings, “the heavens are telling the glory of God,” I find that my research, which seeks to understand the intricacies of nature, is a way of joining in that praise. The more I discover, the more I am in awe of God’s creation. While my work involves using space-based telescopes, I don’t have any plans or need to go into space myself. My focus remains on studying the universe from here on Earth, using the tools and technology available to us.

What are your contributions as a scientist to the Church and the world?

One of my key contributions to science is understanding how galaxies grow by deciphering their merger history. Galaxies increase in size not only by forming new stars but also through mergers with smaller galaxies due to gravitational forces. Reconstructing this merger history, especially for distant galaxies like the Milky Way, is complex. My research has made significant strides in determining the mass and size of the largest galaxy that merged with a parent galaxy, advancing our understanding in this area. As a Jesuit priest and scientist, I also aim to demonstrate the harmony between science and religion. I am dedicated to highlighting the Church’s rich tradition of Catholic scientists and promoting the idea that faith and science are compatible and can work together.

What is M32p, which you discovered with Eric Bell in 2018?

In 2018, along with Eric Bell, I demonstrated that the Andromeda galaxy, our nearest galactic neighbour, had merged with a galaxy about half the size of the Milky Way. The remnant of this merged galaxy is now a smaller galaxy known as M32. We named the original galaxy, which was almost entirely consumed in the process, M32p.

Father Richard, I found 23 projects listed on the Cornell website that you have been involved in. Congratulations! Could you briefly explain these projects? Are these the only projects you’ve worked on?

Thank you! The 23 projects you found on the Cornell website represent a collection of my work published over the years. Whenever we complete a project and publish a paper, we archive it in a publicly accessible repository. Throughout my career, I have participated in several astronomical projects, most of which focus on studying the accretion history of galaxies. These are not the only projects I’ve worked on, but they highlight some key areas of my research.

How do you view the Church’s stance on faith, religion, and science, especially considering its history with figures like Galileo, and how did the Vatican Observatory come to be established?

The Church has a balanced perspective on faith and science, recognizing the value of how they can work together. Over the years, various Church documents and letters from the Holy Fathers, particularly John Paul II, have highlighted the compatibility of science and faith. However, the Church has made mistakes in the past, such as in the case of Galileo and other scientific issues like evolution, where theological concerns seemed to conflict with scientific discoveries. It’s hoped that the Church has learned from these past missteps.

Despite the Galileo controversy, the Church has always had a deep interest in the sciences. Even during Galileo’s time, many Catholic priests were astronomers and scientists who made significant contributions and even engaged in debates with Galileo. Some of Galileo’s ideas were correct, while others were not, but these discussions were part of a larger tradition of scientific inquiry within the Church.

The Vatican Observatory, as it exists today, was established in 1890, but the Church’s involvement in astronomy dates back much further. For instance, Pope Gregory XIII in the 16th century tasked Church astronomers, including Jesuit mathematician and astronomer Fr. Christopher Clavius, with reforming the calendar to fix the date of Easter. The Observatory was founded partly in response to the unification of Italy, which led to the loss of papal observatories. Throughout its history, the Church has consistently supported the study of astronomy, reflecting its commitment to exploring the natural world as a way of understanding God’s creation.

As a scientist and priest, how do you reflect on the Book of Genesis in the light of your understanding of the universe, and what message would you give to today’s youth?

The Book of Genesis is rich with theological insights about God’s creation of the universe and the relationship between humankind, God, and the world. The central message is that God created the world, and nothing within creation should be worshipped as a god. Science today supports the idea that the universe began with the Big Bang—a concept first proposed by Fr. Georges Lemaître, a Belgian Catholic priest. The Big Bang theory is deeply aligned with the belief that the universe had a beginning, which implies the existence of a Creator.

To the youth of today, I would offer two pieces of advice: First, dream big, as only by dreaming big can you achieve great things. Second, don’t settle for easy answers. Life’s most important questions require deep reflection and research. Make it your mission to seek the truth, question everything, and avoid settling for ready-made answers.

Fr. Richard’s mother, Mrs. Mary Dsouza, says only a few words about her son, but they contain a world of meaning about him: “Richie was so fascinated about the universe from his childhood. He is a very humble and fervent priest. At the time of his Ordination, we felt so elevated to heavenly joy. Our first son has gone to God and we wanted Richard to be with us, but he was very firm in his call to priesthood. Today we are happy that he does great things for the Church as a priest and for the world as a scientist.”

A dedicated member of the Daughters of Charity of St. Vincent de Paul, Sr. Soniya currently serves as a teacher in Kothagudem, Telangana. Her commitment to education and service reflects her deep dedication to her congregation and community. She can be contacted at: soniyadc88@gmail.com

Sr Soniya K Chacko DC 

In this interview with Fr. Francis Juan Senabre, S.J., a dedicated missionary from Spain, we delve into his extraordinary journey of over seven decades in India. Born in Lorcha just before the Spanish Civil War, Fr. Juan faced early hardships but was deeply rooted in faith. His call to the Jesuit vocation led him to India, where he eagerly embraced new languages and cultures. Fr. Juan’s extensive work in various parishes and schools, his contributions during challenging times, and his unwavering commitment to the needy showcase a life devoted to faith and service. Reflecting on his time in India, he expresses gratitude and a heartfelt wish for peace and harmony in the country he considers home.

Tell us something about your earlier years and your family

My full name is Fr. Francis Juan Senabre,S.J. At home they call me Paco, in school and among friends I was known as Senabre, my mother’s surname, as a Jesuit I go as Fr. Juan, with many spelling  it as Avan, Won, etc.

I was born on 21 April 1931, just before the Spanish Civil War, in Lorcha, a small village close to Gandia, the city of St. Francis Borgia. My parents were simple, devout and very hard working. My father was a good farmer and mason. He built our house and the houses of the other three brothers. During the civil war we were under the Communists. My father and elder brother were taken to prison. They came to our house with rifles. I was five years old then. We lived in fear and were deprived of many things. The village church was demolished, so we said our prayers secretly. I still keep a vivid memory of how we prayed the rosary. I learned the litany in Latin and my father praised me. Till today I say it in Latin.

How did you first experience your call to be a Jesuit? 

After the civil war my parents, my sister and brother went to Gandia. I got admission in the Jesuit school run in the same place as of St. Francis Borgia. I served mass daily and joined the Sodality of Our Lady. One day I was playing football and I suddenly remembered I had to attend a meeting. I left the game and went running and reached on time. When I reached there I looked for a while at the statue of Our Lady, and that was the beginning of my vocation. I was very friendly with the Fathers and in contact with the Tertians who were there from different parts of Spain and abroad. They sent me to the Apostolic School in Roquetas. On the occasion of the canonization of St. John de Britto, I took part in a play. I read the lives of saints and letters from missionaries, made a retreat  in Veruela, the Jesuit Novitiate and on 15th August 1948 I joined the same novitiate.

Did you opt to come to India as a missionary or were you assigned?

I expressed my desire to be sent to India to the novice master, Fr. Victor Blajot. It was a great surprise when I was appointed. It was Pentecost Sunday, 5th.June 1949. Fr. Sayo, the Provincial came at recreation time and said: “the Holy Spirit inspired me to send brothers to Japan and India”. He confirmed that I would be sent to India. You can imagine my feelings then!

What did you do after finishing the Novitiate years?

I finished the Novitiate, learned a bit of English and sailed to India with Fr. Heras as leader and 8 others. After 18 days we landed in Bombay on11th February 1952, it was Monday, the Feast of Our Lady of Lourdes. It was at 7 a.m in the morning, when I saw the hazy silhouette of Bombay from the ship. Fr. Heras pointed out to us the towers of St. Xavier’s College.  At V.T. station we took the local train which was not crowded and reached Andheri, Vinayalaya.  We were warmly welcomed, and served lunch consisting of rice and curry which I tasted for the first time. So, everything was new. There, I improved my English and the next year, 1953 was sent to Anand to study Gujarati.

In 1956 Gujarat was separated from Maharashtra and made into a new Province. I then remained in Mumbai and Fr. Coyne, the Provincial, told me, “you are young, study Marathi”. Once again, I had to begin with the ABC of a new language.

When were you ordained and what mission work did you do after that?

I studied Philosophy and Theology in Pune, De Nobili College, and then did two years of Regency in Parel,  Mumbai.  I taught Latin to the seminarians, and was ordained a priest on 24th March 1962, with 20 others, in St. Mary’s, Mazagon. After that I spent 3 months in Talasari, practised my Marathi, and even said mass in Marathi. I then went to Sitaghara, Hazaribag for my tertianship, finished my training for Jesuits and came to Mumbai.

My first appointment was in 1964 to St. Anne’s Church and St. Mary’s, Mazagon.  For 22 years I served there and identified myself with the people, children, youth and adults. I was Director of the Young Men and Young Ladies Sodalities; in charge, Manager of the Parochial School in Tadwadi, involved in the young workers league and youth center. I ran the Summer Holiday Camps for about 1000 children, which were very much appreciated then and are still talked about even today. Later, I was a Chaplain for students at St. Mary’s SSC School and this too has remained very much a part of my life.

You were transferred again to Holy Family church in Andheri, Mumbai. What work did you do there?

 In 1986 I was transferred to Holy Family church and school, where I did Parish and school work. With Ms Marita Ishwaran, social worker we ran  an organization called Ashankur, helping the needy with a meal a day programme. During the riots in Mumbai, I took the local Corporator around and visited homes until peace was restored.

You have been working in Bandra for some years now, and what work are you presently engaged in?

After 8 years, in1994 I came to St. Peter’s, Bandra, and have been involved in many activities both in the parish and St. Stanislaus school, celebrating the Eucharist, visiting the families in the zones and hearing regular confessions on Saturdays. Through my work, I hope to help people experience the love of God in their own lives.

I can say I am happy and very much at peace, accepted by the parish team, appreciated by all. I am grateful to God and to Our Lady, to the Society of Jesus and to everyone. I have been blessed in many ways during these 72 years in India.

In conclusion, what are your wishes for India?

I wish and pray that we all stay joyfully, in peace and harmony, so that the country may prosper. I did not get Indian citizenship but my heart is very much here, one with you all, especially the needy.

Ms Janina Gomes

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In this interview, Mr. James Ambat shares his journey from a small village in India to founding Building Blocks, an organization transforming lives through education. Discover how his vision and dedication are bridging the gap between the rich and poor, offering hope and opportunity to countless children.

Tell us something about your earlier years.

I was born in a small community in one of the remotest parts of India. Some of my earliest memories are of walking barefoot along the dusty roads, back and forth between the family home and the village school to which my parents sent me. It was a very modest, simple school but it gave me the foundation of education and it opened my eyes to the possibilities of life beyond the village.

It was a simple world for me and my five younger brothers, and it was a happy life, even though we never had much in the way of material possessions. It was a tight-knit community, where everyone knew everyone else, and you had to behave yourselves. If you were naughty, you could be sure that someone would step in and correct you. I was very fortunate, because my parents believed in the value of education and when I left the village school, they encouraged me to continue my studies, which meant leaving the village and going to college in the city.

Ms Janina Gomes

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Positively curious and delightfully creative, Sr. Virgy SCB, who has donned different hats as an educator, formator, provincial, and general councilor, tells us in this interview how it was her love for Jesus that spurred her on.

Interviewed by Ms Janina Gomes

1. Tell us something about your earlier years, your family and your village.

I grew up in Rayappanpatty, a picturesque agricultural village nestled amidst foggy mountains in Theni District, Tamil Nadu, near the Kerala border. The village is known for its  legacy of spiritual richness, and a strong religious presence, with many residents dedicating themselves to serving Christ, which is considered prestigious among families. I studied in St. Ann’s higher secondary school, where I received good training for life. My upbringing in this spiritually rich environment, guided by loving and honest parents, has instilled in me traditional values and a strong sense of family bondedness. Among my siblings – three brothers and two sisters – all are settled happily in their lives.

2. You are highly qualified with an M.A, B.Ed and M. Phil. Were you encouraged by your parents or your Congregation to study further?

At the tender age of 16, I embarked on a trans-formative journey by joining the convent of the Sisters of St. Charles Borromeo. This decision shaped my entire life, and I owe immense gratitude to my congregation for moulding me into the person I am today. The years spent in the convent became more than just a part of my life – they became my home, and I developed a profound attachment to the congregation.

After my initial two years in the convent and upon professing my vows, I was sent for further studies by my superiors. This marked the beginning of a progressive educational journey that saw me successfully complete my Bachelor’s and Master’s degrees, followed by  B.Ed and M.Phil. I was a teacher in a Government school but after four years I was asked to resign to get into formation, Additionally, I underwent training in formators’ programs, enhancing my understanding and skills in guiding others on their spiritual and educational paths.

3. Tell us how you first experienced a call to become a religious and to join the Congregation of the Sisters of Charles Borromeo.

I was a playful and spirited child, lively and mischievous, and a free girl who defied the expectations of society that a girl should be gentle and well-behaved.  My heart yearned for something more, a life of service and compassion. Inspired by the story of St. Francis of Assisi after watching a movie about him, I harbored a deep desire to dedicate myself to helping the less fortunate. For three years, I nurtured this calling and the turning point came after encounters with the Sisters of St. Charles, who visited my home annually. Their presence and dedication resonated within me, reinforcing my resolve to join their society. After completing my schooling, I boldly embraced my decision to become a nun and committed myself to the Society of Sisters of St. Charles. Despite initial resistance and disbelief from my family, I remained steadfast in my conviction, knowing that my calling was not just a fleeting fancy but a profound calling from within. In embracing my true purpose, I found fulfillment and a meaning that went beyond any conformity, teaching me the importance of staying true to myself and my dreams.Top of Form

4. Could you share your experiences starting your professional journey as a teacher in Ranipet, Tamil Nadu?

I loved my profession as a teacher. I loved my students and they loved me in return. For me every day in the classroom was a joyous adventure filled with laughter, learning, and heartfelt connections. My students weren’t just pupils; they were my extended family, showering me with affection and treating me as a beacon of inspiration. In their eyes, I was a heroine whose guidance and encouragement propelled them to greatness.

Driven by a passion for excellence, I approached my role with unwavering dedication and a competitive spirit that aimed not for personal glory but for the collective success of my students. Whether it was competitions, projects, or academic pursuits, I tirelessly championed my class, instilling in them a sense of confidence and a thirst for achievement. Though my time in Ranipet was brief, my impact was profound, with my students still reaching out and reminiscing about the special bond they shared. I wasn’t just a teacher but a friend to all, and my years of teaching brought not only rich experiences but also a deeper understanding of how to inspire and empower young minds.

5. As the Principal of a Higher Secondary School in Chilakaluripet, Andhra Pradesh, what values were central in your interactions with the students?

The best years of my life were spent in A.P. My journey in Chilakaluripet, Andhra Pradesh was trans-formative. I started as a dedicated teacher for the 7th Standard and became a school principal. I prioritized not just academic excellence but also instilling strong values in the students. Through innovative methods, I nurtured a culture of learning and moral growth, earning deep trust and respect from parents and students alike. My approach to discipline and education was firm yet compassionate. Children were afraid of me and listened to me. Collaborating with a supportive staff, I ensured the school’s continual success. My dedication extended beyond classrooms, investing time in students’ holistic development, including sports and extracurricular activities. Former students often reach out to express their gratitude for the invaluable lessons I have imparted. Their acknowledgment of a missing piece in education today –preparation for life’s stresses—reflects the evolving challenges students face today. Very many students are doctors today and hundreds of them are abroad. Quite a few are in the IAS and IPS. I know for sure that these students will never ever forget their school “St.Charles” and what it did to them in their lives.

6. What insights and lessons did you gain from your transition from teaching to formation, including your training as a formator and your six-year tenure as a novice mistress?

One of the key reasons I was entrusted with the role of a formator could be attributed to my deep understanding of young individuals and my ability to connect with them in a friendly yet challenging manner. My willingness to stand by the young sisters, even when they make mistakes, stems from my own personal growth through failures and mistakes. These experiences have shaped my life and equipped me with wisdom and empathy. Through my time spent with the young sisters, accompanying them on their journeys, I have gained invaluable spiritual and emotional lessons. This hands-on approach has allowed me to learn and grow alongside them, fostering a deeper understanding of their needs and challenges. Being with the Young I felt energetic, young and creative. Looking back on my past, I realize that age and experience have granted me a greater perspective and a heightened ability to comprehend situations more effectively.

7. You then took on more responsibilities in the Congregation, by serving on the Provincial Council, then as Provincial of the Chennai province for 6 years, followed by 6 years in the General Council at Kalyan. What did you learn about leadership patterns in these varied jobs?

My leadership philosophy revolves around genuine care for individuals and a focus on mission-driven goals. This approach has been ingrained in me since my early days as a leader in school, where I seamlessly connected with everyone and held positions of responsibility. Transitioning into a leadership role as a religious sister, I found that my passion for leadership remained strong, albeit with a shift towards a more person and mission-oriented focus.

My leadership journey has taught me the importance of continuous learning and adaptation to the changing times. I recognize that a leader must possess a breadth of knowledge, remain open to learning new things, and stay attuned to the needs of the community. Central to my leadership style is the ability to communicate effectively, showing empathy and understanding while also maintaining firm expectations and delivering on entrusted responsibilities.

8. You accumulated a wealth of experiences in your diverse roles as sister, superior, and formator, Provincial and general councilor. How have these experiences shaped you into the simple, humble and deeply understanding person you are today?

Regardless of our role in religious life, at the core, I am a sister who has embraced the path of following Jesus’ teachings. Consistency defines my efforts as I strive to emulate His virtues unfailingly. I  believe in hard work , dedicated service, reaching out to others and offering my time, energy, and assistance to the less fortunate. Compassion is my guiding force, easily stirred by the pain and struggles of those around me. Justice and kindness are values I hold dear, knowing that acts of goodness and charitable deeds pave the way to heavenly merit. Guarding against pride and arrogance, I seek reconciliation swiftly when my emotions momentarily falter. Wherever I am I have the spirit of belonging. I find joy in making others happy and going beyond surface-level impressions to truly understand others.

9. You are very tech savvy, how did you become such an expert down the years?

“You might say I’m quite tech-savvy. Over the years, my curiosity and creativity have driven me to learn and stay updated on technology. I wouldn’t claim to be an expert, but I’ve become adept at managing technology and assisting others with it. I learned by doing, observing others, and exploring every button to understand its function on computers and mobile phones. This hands-on approach has not only helped me learn but also enabled me to support others effectively.” 

10. Is there anything you would like to add?

  I will remember all the seniors in this home, with love and gratitude.

In this Interview, Mrs. Theresa Monteiro speaks about the suffering and adversities she went through and how it helped her develop her own reflections on suffering and compassion. 

What is compassion for you?

Compassion is love and kindness shown to people in all walks of life. Franklin Roosevelt said:” Let’s remember that it takes both the white and the black keys of the piano to play the Star Spangled Banner”. If civilization is to survive, we must cultivate the science of human relationship- the ability of people of all kinds to live together in the same world of peace.

Compassion is loving kindness. Kindness is giving hope and happiness to those who are lonely, depressed and distraught. When I lost my husband 14 years ago, I was so shocked and suddenly very lonely. Relatives and friends took turns to spend the night with me and they also cooked my meals. I will always remember them. Blessed are those friends who gave me love and consolation. Remembering what others did for me when I was in distress ignited in me the desire to give hope to other people whom I encountered in my Legion work.

How did you practice compassion?

I was a member of the Legion of Mary- the Presidium of Our Lady of the Mount. We did 2 hours of Legion work weekly, like visiting the Old Age Clergy Home in Bandra, talking and consoling patients in the Holy Family Hospital in Bandra and visiting those in our neighbourhood who were ill and mostly bedridden. We can be loving and caring even from a distance.

When I underwent a serious surgery in Holy Family Hospital, a friend of mine sent me a Get Well Card. The card read:” Praying for God’s Healing and Blessings as you begin your treatment. May His promises offer Hope, His Strength inspire courage and His Loving Presence give you peace”.

Hope doesn’t disappoint us because God’s love has been poured into our hearts (Romans 5:5). What our Church needs today is to bring Hope and Healing to a broken and hurting world.  We don’t need empty hearted and heavy headed professionals but warm and caring humans.

How do you experience compassion where you are right now?

In the Consecrated way of Life, like the Sisters of Charles Borromeo Home for Senior Citizens where I am now staying, I am impressed with the way these nuns are trained to be bearers of the joy of the Gospel, to go to the peripheries, to listen to the cry of the poor and those in pain, to nurture peace and love, to give and to forgive, to be joyful and rejoice. Their dedication to their vocation to serve those in need is done by being kind and merciful, consoling us by their hugs and embraces and thus showing mercy and kindness. These nuns instil hope in us by standing by us, like Mother Mary who stood by the Cross when Jesus, her Son was lifted high on the Cross to die. Charity and kindness is ignited in me in this home and now I am aware of my companions here who are in need of kindness, by talking to them in a low tone, looking them straight in the eye and also touching them with my hand.

Tell us about your earlier years and how compassion was ingrained in you as a child.  

For me compassion like charity began at home. As a child I had a good life. I was the 4^th of 9 children. When I was little, I got what I asked for. My Papa was the Chief Accountant at LIC. But later as the family grew in number, all the frills and niceties of life were cut off. Mum had to carry on household chores and keep a decent table with not much money in hand. To make ends meet was extremely difficult. By the time I finished school, my Papa wanted me to study further, so he borrowed from his friends and brother and saw me through my graduation. My undergraduate years were at Sophia nun by the Religious of the Sacred Heart and my graduate years were at St. Xavier’s College run by the Jesuits.

Tell us something about your experiences at work?

As soon as I graduated, the Vice Principal of St. Xavier’s College informed me of a vacancy for a Science and Ethics teacher at St. Agnes School at Byculla run by Religious of Jesus and Mary nuns. After one year I got a job in the corporate world. I worked for a German Chemical company called BASF Ltd. After 3 years I left to get married. During my working days I did a lot by way of charity which began at Home. I paid all my Papa’s debts and the home expenses were run with my salary. There was nothing left for me. I would travel cheaply by train and wear hand-me-down clothes. My parents were immensely proud of me and the sacrifices I made. I remember my Mama’s words till today: “  Of all my daughters, you will get the best husband”.  Mama was prayerful and felt sure that God would bless me.  I am blessed. I married a good and upright man and so I have 4 good children who will care for me.

You also donated generously and practiced works of charity- tell us something about that.

Monetarily, I donate whenever funds are collected for the church and the missions. Physically compassion is ignited in me when in the Community I am sowing love. I was kind of blind to my surroundings. Now when I see people ailing, mercy and compassion are ignited in me. Awareness  of my surroundings has crept in and even though now I am not involved in giving much help, I still reach out to people – those who are in need, by being polite and tender, or through a touch or a loving word, Mother Teresa says that we feel that what we are doing is just a drop in the ocean. But, the ocean would be less because of the missing drop.

 I also gave a poor boy from St. Stanislaus school lunch every day for a full year. I brought him home to my house to join my children during lunch time. To the maids who worked for me, they were kept happy because they were treated like family and their entire salary could be sent home. One of them remarked: “You are like my mother”

I end with the words of Ella Wheeler Wilcox: “God what a world, if men in  street and mart, felt that same kinship of the human heart, which makes them, in the face of fire and flood, rise to the meaning of True Brotherhood”.

Ms Janina Gomes

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